A general collection of evidence for plurality outside of a CDD.
A site that acts as a response to debunk anti-endogenic and system medicalist claims against endogenic plurality and it "isn't real."If you're curious you can read through the site, and come to your own conclusions.With that said, Disclaimer: this carrd should not serve or be any form of replacement for anything medical related, this is just a collection of sources put in one place with all sources linked to where they are originally from.

So, what are endogenic systems?The term Endogenic itself as of recent years acts as sort of a umbrella term that encompasses all origin types where a persons system (or even headmate) was formed from means other than trauma ~ through processes such as tulpamancy, willing a headmate into existence (willomancy), or simply experiencing plurality through other spiritual and/or other origins like being born as a system (protogenic).The term "endogenic" itself was first created by Lunastus Collective, a diagnosed DID system, back in 2014 as a sort of 'replacement' term instead of "natural system" or "natural multiplicity". To quote:> "Did you just sort of happen, with no known cause, but you might not have always been this way? Endogen! (Endogenous, having no external cause.)"
[source: https://archive.md/iYWjG]A more recent post made in 2022 by Lunastus & Co better explained the term:
> "We introduced the term “endogenic” into the community August 2014, along with some other terms! It was in response to exclusionists (wrongly) complaining about “systems without DID” using “their words”. It was an attempt at creating nonmedicalized terms that any plural system could use.> It was also a way to do away with terms that had fallen into disfavor— specifically “natural systems”, a term that had been in use possibly as early as 1994. It was disliked because people felt it implied that trauma-caused systems were unnatural. “Endogenic” fixed that."> "The word “endogenic” was lovingly created to help systems put their experience into words. All it means is “a system not formed by trauma”; it doesn’t imply any other cause, set of beliefs, or experiences. It doesn’t imply the system is nondisordered or doesn’t have trauma. It doesn’t mean any other system’s origins in trauma or dx status is “invalid” or whatever."
source: hi-an-endogenic-refresher-course-right-here, tumblr post.Of course the term evolved over time to be a general catch-all term that encompasses anything where the origin of someones plurality was formed from means that wasn't trauma, but this does not mean endogenics don't have trauma. There are some individuals that are diagnosed with DID (or OSDD), however, they feel their plurality was still caused by other means. There are also individuals are of mixed origins (or trauma-endo) where the causation of their plurality was a mix of trauma and other means. It is a personal label that a person may chose to use to better explain their experience.What Endogenics are NOT doing is mocking DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) or OSDD (Otherwise Specified Dissociative Disorder) systems, nor are they claiming to have DID or OSDD, or stating that DID/OSDD can happen without trauma and/or meeting the diagnostic criteria.DID & OSDD are complex dissociative disorders are due to early childhood trauma according to current theory of structural dissociation, you cannot have DID or OSDD without trauma and meeting the diagnosis criteria as laid out in the DSM-V and ICD-11.Please view the DID/OSDD Resources for information regarding CDDs (complex dissociation disorders).
"Am I endogenic?"
Endogenic and labels that fall under the umbrella are entirely things that only YOU can decide and confirm within yourself."What other labels are there if its an umbrella?"
You can find all the terms here on PluralPedia's site (link) as the list is extensive.note: Pluralpedia is NOT a medical resource, it is a community created site to gather community made terms regarding plurality (origins, roles, terms, etc).
So, lets go over the evidence
(note: this is a heavy work in progress and will be actively updated).As you might know there is a particular claim that "endogenic plurality" does not exist as it goes 'against' our current understanding of medical science and that there is "no" research backing plurality outside of a disorder. Well, this could not be further from the truth because studies do exist.This section goes over studies that have been done that suggest how people can have multiple states of self without amnesia and without it being based in trauma. I have linked the studies the best I can and provided readable (hopefully) sources so you can read it for yourselves.You can also view this google document titled "Collected Plurality Info"."These are just cherry picked examples!" Probably, but as we said, you can always read the full provided links yourself and come to your own conclusions.Table of Contents: As there is a lot to read I have provided quick scroll links to sections of this page.
1: Normal Dimensions of Multple Personality Without Amnesia (1999)
2: Tulpas and Mental Health: A Study of Non-traumagenic Plural Experiences (2025)
3: Dr. Schartz explains IFS (video).
4: Are Endogenics Valid? A Video Essay
... and more to come! Please sit tight.
fig.1: "NORMAL DIMENSIONS OF MULTIPLE PERSONALITY WITHOUT AMNESIA (1999)"
by Robert Kunzendorf, Melissa Crosson, Antoinette Zalaket, Jerold White, Robert Enik, and the University of Massachusetts.In this paper it goes into how there seems to be evidence suggesting that people can have multiple personalities without amnesia present, or for it to be "disruptive" to every day life.
You can read the PDF for yourself here (link) as this goes over the basic outline and results.



fig.2: "Tulpas and Mental Health: A Study of Non-Traumagenic Plural Experiences (2025)"
by Jacob J. Isler, Research in Psychology and Behavioral SciencesYou can read the full paper by clicking the link (no login or download required). This section is a small part of a much larger document that I heavily suggest reading yourself.





fig 3: "Dr. Richard Schwartz explains Internal Family Systems (IFS) (2019) (Video)"
The video goes for seven minutes and forty-eight seconds. A transcript of the video will be provided ASAP.
fig 4: "Are Endogenics Valid? A Video Essay (2023) (Video)"
The video goes for nine minutes and fourteen seconds. A transcript of the video will be provided ASAP.
Myths, the Facts, and some Statements.
"Endogenics claim to have DID/OSDD without trauma."This is false. Endogenics do not clam to have DID or OSDD at all, rather they simply express that their plurality comes from means other than trauma.The labels that fall under the endogenic umbrella are purely self-identifiable and often used to help describe whats going on. But lets not forget that there has been those who identify as endogenic who do get/and are diagnosed with DID or OSDD yet believe that the cause of their system was not a result of trauma despite that diagnosis. It does not make them any less valid or real.There are also individuals who claim to be "Trauma-Endo / Mixed Origin" where the cause of their system is typically trauma based (not always) and where some headmates may have formed from means outside of trauma (example: Joe might be a headmate that formed purely out of joy while the system he's part of was due to trauma).---"Endogenics don't have trauma."Incorrect. Anyone can experience trauma, what endogenics are doing is just stating that their plurality/systemhood did not come from trauma.And to deny that someone doesn't have trauma is ludicrous.
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"Endogenics are trying to cause themselves trauma / to have a disorder!"No. Endogenics do not cause themselves to have trauma to "have" DID/OSDD either, you are thinking of a specific "TransID" crowd that genuinely believe you can "transition" to have a disorder. I go more in depth of transDID/transID here (link).---"Endogenics are invading CDD spaces!"While I won't deny the possibility of some individuals invading spaces meant for CDD systems (such as a discord server specifically for DID/OSDD systems) it is not something Every endogenic is doing, endogenics should not go in spaces that are not meant for them, in fact a grand majority understand and respect boundaries of servers and/or users.---"There is no evidence that endogenic plurality exists."Evidence does exist please view this page for an extended view on resources that support plurality outside of DID/OSDD. The research isn't hard to find. While research is very minimal, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.---"My therapist says endogenics are not real."Just because your therapist says something it does not mean it is 100% fact. In fact there are psychologists and therapists alike that also support the idea of plurality being 'normal' (this doesn't necessarily mean they're correct either). In fact there are a lot of therapists and psychologists today that believe DID isn't real, or that autism is a "boy only" disorder, or that ADHD is something that exists in childhood. There are therapists and psychologists that believe in outdated information still.---
"People who claim to be endogenic just don't remember their trauma!"Incorrect, as some may still remember their trauma and just do not associate that trauma with their plurality.Even if the trauma was the cause: it can still be unhealthy to force them to dig through that when they're not ready, aren't in the state, place, or aren't with a professional can further harm or even re-traumatize them. This statement does nothing proactively, and does a lot more harm than it does any sort of "good".---
"I have had bad interactions to endogenics, I prefer they didn't interact with me."I'm sorry you had poor experiences with endogenics, I get it... a bad interaction can very much sour the whole bunch. And you are very much allowed to have boundaries, you're very much allowed to prefer if endogenics (and it's supporters) to not interact with you. What it doesn't justify you do is to fakeclaim them, to bully them, to send death threats to them, if you don't do that: awesome.---
Everything about DID & OSDD.This section supplies resources towards DID/OSDD spaces and information, while this carrd is more centric to endogenic plurality I felt it was needed to list anyway.Please do not use these tools to diagnose yourself with DID or OSDD. If you're questioning or suspecting all I can do is urge for you to seek professional consultation if you means and funds to do so. (There is nothing wrong with self-research & suspecting)
TransDID? What the hell is that?TransDID (trans dissociative identity disorder) is the belief that you can "transition" to have DID like you can with gender (i.e transgender), like they were meant to have dissociative identity disorder but (likely) don't have it, some have even stated that they feel even dysphoric from not having these very real disordersTransDID also falls under the "TransPlural" umbrella
> "Transplural, sometimes called transsystem, is a large umbrella term describing anyone with the experience of feeling like they should be plural or desire to be plural. It falls under the transid umbrella, and can refer to any form of plurality, including traumagenic, endogenic, disordered, and non-disordered plurality."
this is sourced from the transplural carrd, which I am frankly not comfortable linking.Wait... they said endogenic, does endogenics support transID folk?
Generally, no. The larger endogenic community does not support transplural or even the transID crowd due to various reasons: it's just not right in any situation and is fundamentally ableist. When you describe people who "want DID" you are talking about transDID and not endogenics.But... aren't endogenics and transplural the same thing?
No. As I have described already in what endogenics are and debunked it already. Endogenics are firm in the belief that they are a system (or plural) already but believe their plural was caused from means that wasn't trauma.TransPlural on the other hand, is the belief that these people were meant to be plural but are not* plural in any sense, so they are "transitioning" to become a system (TransDID, TransOSDD, TransEndo, etc). To my current understanding:TransPlurals and other trans[disorder] and trans[disabilities] are ableist. Endogenics are not.So... what else?
TransID means trans identity, they are part of the overall radqueer (radical queer) community. This community has a lot... of controversial identities to it; which includes things such as seeing yourself as transrace/transethnicity, even going so far as things like transNazi and other very harmful ideologies. Particularly with transrace (also called "race change to another"):> "It is racist to think someone can pick and choose parts of a race or culture they like, then distance themselves from that culture when it suits them. They avoid the burden of discrimination while reaping the rewards of white privilege, taking the necessary resources and voices from the communities who need it.> There is a difference between affirming your gender as a trans person, which doesn’t harm anyone else, and choosing to live and appropriate another culture."
source: the conversationThis does NOT mean you can fakeclaim someone who identifies as "transDID" because whether you like it or not they are still real people who is going through something, and do deserve help and the support to get that help. Call your local mental health provider, if you're in an emergency contact 911 (US), 000 (AUS), 999/112 (UK + EUR).TransID people are generally not evil, if anything they are misguided tweens or other mentally unwell people who are falling into very dangerous crowds, and many of transID people are under the age of 18, some as young as twelve (12).What they need is support to realize these communities are harmful, and help to get away from those communities.
Credits & personal statement(s)This carrd was made by The Last Gunfighters System, a late-20s trauma-endo adaptive (suspecting OSDD) plural system who is sick of misinformation about both endogenics and traumagenics being spread and sick of the drama that boils down to nothing more than petty bullying just because someone is experiencing plurality a little different from the "norm".We do not claim to be a medical professional as the only medical certified thing we have is a Basics of First Aid certificate (meaning we can provide basic first aid and perform CPR), and while we had a passing interest in psychology: we will never claim to be mental health professionals, nor would we ever want to speak over or for anyone.I also made this carrd originally in response to the "why-endos-are-bad" carrd that was made to claim how endogenics are "harmful" when that cannot be further from the truth. But I felt over time I could bring this to be something more than that and act as (yet another) general hub for information about endogenic plurality.If/when I have knowledge in actual website creation and a webhost that isn't carrd.co.And speaking from experience, we were once anti-endogenic and being anti-endogenic was not healthy for us mentally and actually stunted our system discovery and acceptance of it.
And ever since accepting endogenics existing and how plurality is a varied layered experiences from all things has really helped our system and ourselves.If you want to know more about us you can learn more here: lastgunfighters.carrd.co/This carrd was last updated April 19th 2026.